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Budget 101 Info Session - Shared screen with speaker view
Charles Mead
48:21
How/where does the district account for third party funding that assists with operational needs? (Think EdFund)
Community Engagement
48:21
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Angela Dunn
48:46
Thank you!
Community Engagement
49:18
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Aneil Naik
50:43
What is the criteria for being considered “wealthy” by the State?
Alicia Landin
51:11
si un niño falta ala escuela pero es una falta justificada la escuela recibe los fondos de esas faltas justificadas
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
51:29
Can we do a similar comparison with other district in the state that have a large amount of their funds recaptured ?
Angela Dunn
51:48
This has been going on since 1994. Those formulas are very outdated. When will this change? Our schools do not reflect property rich.
Lisa Flores
52:41
How much or what percentage is spent on maintenance of facilities?
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
52:58
Is that short fall before or after the fiscal year begins ?Not sure if my question makes sense
Mary Selby
53:15
I have the same question as @Cuitlahuac
Charles Mead
53:15
In order to change the formulas, the Legislature would have to have a dramatic change of heart.
Helen Miller
53:34
what's the total payroll amount for central administration staff?
Amanda Mortl
53:46
I’d like to see a bar chart with our range of employee salaries
Amber Welsh
53:48
"Districts have to make recapture payments when the local revenue generated from taxable property wealth exceeds the per student guaranteed funding level." source: https://everytexan.org/images/EO_2018_RecaptureExplained.pdf
Vanessa Gamez
53:51
y por que si somos un distrito "RICO" tenemos escuelas tan pobre
Emily Sawyer
54:23
Can you restate the tax sources of local funds, please?
Erika Bodoin
54:31
Will these slides be available after the presentation?
Dariela Villanueva
54:35
En todos los presupuesto tiene que haber un fondo de emergencia, como en este caso que paso lo de la pandemia, debe de considerarse un fondo de emergencias para satisfacer las necesidades.
Lisa Flores
54:36
What is the district doing to work with the legislature to get a change in formula. We can't meet student need or facilities maintenance.
Leah Kelly
54:37
Would splitting into smaller districts like the San Antonio area reduce the amount of money taken through Recapture?
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
55:37
I want to second Lisa Flores question as well as Leak Kelly’s question
Emily Sawyer
57:48
In that comparison of recapture payments, is AISD’s a higher amount, a higher percentage of our tax income, or both compared to those other districts?
Bronwyn Merritt
57:52
That was a high projection leaving AISD teachers without a much needed raise
Charles Mead
58:36
Emily - yes to both
April Clark
58:43
I also have the same question as Lisa F. We have $8643 per student to spend and Eanes has $11,792 based on how much each district keeps for number enrolled. Why?
Lisa Flores
58:47
Walk us through how those enrollment projections are made please. Again, perhaps working with the legislature with neighboring districts to make the budgeting calendar less dependent on guestimation.
Angela Dunn
58:58
The district lobbies every leg session to change this and there has been no decrease. Texas politics are horrible. Deficits every year since I’ve had students in this district. 15 years on my count. So, we have low staffing. Vicious circle.
Lisa Flores
59:49
Yes Angela, the end goal for many in leadership is to break public ed.
Francisca Schindler
01:00:03
Leah’s question is a solution that has floated around for a few years. It is time to act if the the tex leg won’t change their outdated formula.
Ali Ghilarducci
01:00:06
Link to view presentation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a4gaKTqiqifym5oG2BUYtyeyhk5luiAP/view?usp=sharing
Ana Loya
01:00:16
Is it possible to examine the salaries of central office employees compared to those of our teachers? Is that info online? Is there a chart of wage increase similar to teachers?
Angela Dunn
01:00:17
Yup Lisa, since desegregation laws.
Ali Ghilarducci
01:00:19
Enlace para ver la presentación: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a4gaKTqiqifym5oG2BUYtyeyhk5luiAP/view?usp=sharing
Ali Ghilarducci
01:00:34
Si prefiere escuchar la junta en español ponga el cursor en la parte de abajo de la pantalla para ver la barra de herramientas y haga clic en el ícono del globo terráqueo que dice “Interpretation” y seleccione “Spanish”.Si está participando desde un IPad o teléfono presione los tres puntos del menú arriba a la derecha y seleccione “Language Interpretation” y seleccione “Spanish”Si no quiere escuchar el idioma original en el fondo, haga clic en “Mute Original Audio”. Esto a veces puede ayudar cuando el sonido se está cortando
Lisa H
01:00:47
If we split into smaller districts, they could still collaborate on some functions, right? Like transportation and maybe food service.
Charles Mead
01:01:10
A good article from 2019 on why the recapture system isn't going anywhere: https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01/31/texas-robin-hood-recapture-villain-texas-fix-school-finance/
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:01:19
Yes Angela, and now we have a newly created position , a “Chief Officer of Governmental Relations” so it would be nice to know what that position is doing in terms of governmental relations
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:02:07
It would also be great to know where or how the ESSR funds were used
Lisa Flores
01:04:38
When will the public get any information about special education budget? Can there be more transparency about the cost of contractors vs staff and for the cumulative cost of all legal fees associated with special education versus the cost of instruction?
Leah Kelly
01:05:56
Why is money collected by billing Medicaid for special education students put back into the general budget and not used directly for special education students?
Lisa Flores
01:06:59
I know why Leah- because they actually have to render more accounting if they do not repay general fund. ideally, that should be reversed.
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:07:08
Who is second highest ?
Charles Mead
01:07:21
I maintain that the only way out of the budget mess is to adopt broad, large-scale fundraising, seeking individual/grant/corporate philanthropy that builds endowments to support operational program needs (not salaries). It's a long play but I doubt the state will change its educational funding philosophy in our lifetimes.
Arati Singh
01:07:37
This is what makes charter schools so financially painful. We lose $ per child, but it also skews the ratio of property value: students, which increases our recapture amount. The icing on the cake is that OUR recapture dollars fund these same charter schools.
Susan Delgado
01:09:01
If we are considered property rich, and our budget is over $40+ million in the negative, why is our tax rate lower than average? We shouldn't freeze staff positions or cut programs, that does not benefit our schools or our students. Our teachers are already underpaid.
April Clark
01:09:07
How can that me 16% if payroll was 86%
Lisa Flores
01:09:16
Is there a key to the public for accounting functions used?
Leah Kelly
01:09:24
Wouldn't splitting districts more evenly distribute the recapture money to the eco dis population?
Ana Loya
01:09:44
The funds being used to search the social media of educators- could we reevaluate whether this is a real need or can the money be used towards education or teacher pay.
Amber Welsh
01:10:18
@april Some of it might be overlap- custodial would be payroll but also might count as operations
Charles Mead
01:11:20
Susan Delgado - remember that the slide earlier noted that just because a tax rate is lower does not mean the money collected is lower. This is due to very high property values.
April Clark
01:11:37
I would like clarification on how much of the budget goes to maintenance alone, the numbers don't add up if payroll is 86% and operating is only 2%
Bronwyn Merritt
01:12:40
I’d like that information too. Where can we find it or how can we expect to receive it?
Leah Kelly
01:12:52
Mrs. Miller - every district employee's salary is public information. You can find it with a google search even if the district doesn't supply it.
Angela Dunn
01:13:57
That should be public but if it’s only 3% that doesn’t really matter at this point. You need a salary to live in this city. That’s an old argument. The real enemy is the state legislature and the enactment of the recapture.
Erika Bodoin
01:14:33
How about a Google doc with questions and answers?
Community Engagement
01:15:04
Hi Erika, we have an FAQ up at austinisd.org/budget. We will compile questions form this meeting and cross check that page
Erika Bodoin
01:15:12
sounds good :)
Elisabeth Wilborn
01:15:22
Is that true? Aren’t property taxes still much higher in certain parts of Austin than others?
Lisa H
01:15:23
NO property values are not uniform across the district, nor the number of school-aged children
Mary Selby
01:15:37
I second Angela Dunn. I am in favor of supporting or teachers and staff and trying to focus on policy change. The state legislature is the challenge
Erika Bodoin
01:16:33
How can we see budgets per campus?
Charles Mead
01:16:49
Between 2004-2019, AISD lost more than $3.7 billion to the state via recapture. The next highest district during that span of time, Plano ISD, lost more than $1.8 billion.
Lisa Flores
01:16:56
Is the ESSER plan set in stone. Seems like there needs to be a pivot for more supports to teachers and students.
Community Engagement
01:17:23
@Erika we will talk about that shortly :)
Erika Bodoin
01:17:30
Ok!
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:17:45
I agree with Lisa H. The response to the question about splitting into smaller districts seems very simplistic especially since there is a wide range of property values across the city.
Brian Benavidez
01:17:51
The only issue with breaking up into smaller districts is that a lot of the low income schools are in gentrified areas, whose kids go to either the magnet schools in the district, transfer to a west side school, or go to charter schools, so those areas are probably still considered "Rich" areas based on all the affluent people who live on the eastside, but those aren't the students attending the eastside schools.
Dariela Villanueva
01:18:01
mi pregunta es la Recaptura que se regresa el 49.7 % al Estado ??? por que debemos de regresar este dinero??, donde aplica este dinero el Estado ??? si todos los anos hay inflacion, tambien aplican el % de inflacion en los presupuestos de la educacion ??
Leah Kelly
01:18:06
I don't believe that is a thorough or accurate explanation of how recapture would affect budgeting. As others have said property values are not consistent across all areas. Students in lower property value areas would be benefitted.
Lisa Flores
01:18:58
Does this include contractors?
Lisa Flores
01:19:09
What is the total cost of contractors?
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:19:36
Brian, I guess we need to re evaluate transfer policies and magnet programs as one approach to becoming a more equitable district that serves all students well.
Charles Mead
01:20:00
Lisa - the trouble with using ESSER funds for salaries is that the money is not renewable, so teachers would have to see a pay cut again the year after the ESSER funds were expended. Also, there are limitations as to how ESSER funds can be spent. This is a high-level description of the approved categories: https://tasanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/TalkingPoints-2021-fed-stimulus.pdf
Lisa H
01:20:18
Even just pulling out a teeny downtown "donut hole" district
Emily Sawyer
01:20:20
Do we know how much money is lost to 313 corporate tax abatement every year?
Lisa Flores
01:21:23
What exactly is the vehicle to measure " student need" when it comes to staffing?
Erika Bodoin
01:21:48
I noticed it’s not possible to save the chat which is a bummer because the chat is happenin’
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:21:48
Maybe these special programs like fine arts should be re located to campuses losing the most staff as a result of the districts strategic staffing model ?
Lisa Flores
01:21:49
That question is for gen ed and special ed.
Ali Ghilarducci
01:22:07
@susan Delgado, we have a lower tax rate because of how the recapture formula works. If we raise our tax rate, we only get to keep a tiny fraction of that money, even less than the overall 50 or so percent we keep overall. It’s a graduated rate so we keep a certain amount per student plus the weights, any money we raise above that, it’s diminishing returns so we don’t want to raise taxes because the juice isn’t worth the squeeze so to say
Mary Selby
01:22:47
Thanks Ali for that explanation
thuy Nguyen
01:22:49
Can you talk about how DL programs are funded?
Charles Mead
01:23:30
I will argue that Fine Arts is not a "special program." It's a mandatory subject area like English, Math, Science, etc.
Lisa Flores
01:23:36
So how much do we spend on special ed? The dollar amount? How are teachers paid according to funding?
Lisa H
01:24:01
Are the enrollment snapshot numbers available somewhere by campus?
Cuitlahuac Guerra-Mojarro
01:24:12
I agree Charles. My question is through the lens or context of funding
Ali Ghilarducci
01:24:19
@ericka Rodin, let me see if I can change that feature with the chat
Emily Sawyer
01:24:40
CACs need more time and training re budgets. It’s tough for parents to comment on a campus Budget in the 5 minutes I get to read it over at a CAC meeting. At this point, it’s often just a check box.
Leah Kelly
01:24:50
Are special education substitutes paid out of SPED budget? Isn't it a misappropriation of funds for SPED subs to routinely be used to fill other vacant positions and leave SPED MORE underserved?
Lisa Flores
01:25:09
CACs don't have data needed about special populations.
Lisa H
01:25:17
Say more about BTO vs campus improvement plan (as far as budget).
Elisabeth Wilborn
01:25:32
Absolutely Charles. All middle and high school students should have access to Art, Dance, Music, Theater, et al. Our enrollment, our attendance, our student interest in schools, and our standardized test scores would also go up.
Carmen Samilpa
01:25:33
I was told that our campus doesn't use the AISD CAC membership application and doesn't operate "formally" How can I become apply for CAC membership?
Helen Miller
01:26:32
Not all campuses have Council Advisory Communties or child study teams.
Dariela Villanueva
01:26:38
Como se determina el monto de ingresos para cada escuela ?? tienen alguna diferencia si la escuela esta al Norte, Sur , Este o Oeste ?? Influye el valor de las propiedades en la cuestion de los ingresos a cada escuela ??
Lisa H
01:26:54
What would be a community process to support/empower CACs to be in a position to do more/deeper/better analysis and recommendations of the campus budget?
Emily Sawyer
01:26:58
CACs should be apprised of all private funding coming in at the campus level as well (PTA, grants, enrichment fees, booster clubs, etc). And this should all be included on every campus website.
Amber Welsh
01:26:59
Most of the budget is already almost all decided once it gets to the campus level because all of it comes in the form of pre determined staffing allocations. Is there opportunities for the community to engage in the budget decisions related to staffing allocations?
Lisa Flores
01:28:01
Who does that? What is the vehicle?
Lisa Matuke
01:28:11
What is the % that we pay on stipends, SpEd, Bilingual, etc? Will these continue in the future?
Lisa Flores
01:28:16
Is it software or is it a person doing it?
Valerie Turullols
01:28:20
I don’t want the district to split. But I don’t feel the district answered that question accurately about how it would impact the finances across the city. And honestly with the picture this is painting, it feels like the only solution to help the educationally disadvantaged schools, which is concerning. Unless the district has some magical ace up their sleeve.
Maggie Quinlan
01:28:25
If the fund balance trend remains as projected, what happens in 2024 or 2025 when the required fund balance is higher than actuals?
Nhi Lieu
01:28:34
Is there a way for us to reduce the funds that go to the State for recapture? Nearly 50% is a lot and we need it. It’s especially disturbing not knowing that the state is not legally obligated to use it toward education.
Emily Sawyer
01:28:50
To Amber’s point, why ask for parent feedback if it is already basically set? Engage us before that, or let us spend our time and admin time elsewhere.
Lisa Flores
01:29:08
Ms. Stephens, very respectfully, that measures bodies, not need.
Erika Bodoin
01:29:20
Is it impossible to change the budget during the school year? Changing PTA budget isn’t that difficult but it seems like school budgets are different. Like others are asking here, when does community feedback actually happen?
Nadia Khan
01:29:39
Agree with Emily. All sources of funding need to be transparent.
Lisa Flores
01:30:58
Do the students who are generating staff actually have access to those staff members?
Mary Selby
01:30:58
What are some actions we in AISD can take to actually case change
Angela Dunn
01:31:49
Ok, Leslie’s point is good. Rerun formula when you have human bodies. Levelling moves staff.
Angela Dunn
01:32:05
Math
Lisa Flores
01:32:09
leveling based on only numbers really misses the actual NEED of students. a program or placement doesn't tell you that.
Mary Selby
01:32:19
I second Nhi and am deeply concerned that AISD is possibly being taken advantage of, and our students and staff are losing out
Erika Bodoin
01:32:26
YES Lisa, so true.
Lisa Flores
01:32:44
There is also no class limits for self contained classrooms and there can be K-5 in the same class.
Elisabeth Wilborn
01:32:48
We are also continuing to lose teachers to resignation this school year. Are these faculty getting an exit interview, and is the district taking actionable change to understand why they felt the need to leave mid-year?
Emily Sawyer
01:33:42
To Mary’s question, it would be great if the district used parent power in advocacy more strategically. With all due respect, legislative priorities need to be stronger and parents need to be leveraged to use our power to change things!
Amber Welsh
01:33:55
Thank you for that answer, but my question was more about how community can influence staffing allocations not how they work or how to get more information on them
thuy Nguyen
01:34:08
leveling takes into account of the total number of students in school and not look at special programs.
April Clark
01:34:09
Agree with Emily S.
Dariela Villanueva
01:34:11
creo que la recaptura es uno de los grandes problemas en los ingresos para la educacion, desde hace anos vemos deficit en los prespuestos escolares, la recaptura es en donde no hay transparencia en los ingresos.
Charles Mead
01:34:33
Mary, AISD and its students, families, and staff have been taken advantage of since 2004. In my opinion, there is no budgeting trick that gets us out of this. Seeking funding/resources from outside the school funding system is the only answer.
Angela Dunn
01:35:12
@Emily We, parents have been testifying for years and move in a group to lobby these legislators. Again, they do not care about adjusting their ways. It’s terrible in this state.
Erika Bodoin
01:35:16
Emily, agreed!! We need to be a vocal and organized collective to advocate for our schools
Lisa H
01:35:38
The gap at CAC isn't information. At least up here, the CAC members bring plenty of relevant and useful experience at the overall task of advising the campus. But they are not budget analysts! What would a community process be to bring in that skill to support/empower the CAC members?
Valerie Turullols
01:35:40
Charles, that already happens at affluent schools through private fundraising for those specific schools and does not help those schools most in need.
Erika Bodoin
01:35:53
There is certainly a lot of evidence of not caring from TX Lege these days
Emily Sawyer
01:36:05
Yes, we lobby and testify, but not in vast numbers and not always on the most strategic issues, IMO.
Lisa Flores
01:36:13
How will AISD budget or plan for a better means to staff schools that is based on need, not numbers?
Angela Dunn
01:36:21
@Emily, I know, it get worse every time.
Charles Mead
01:36:30
Valerie, I'm referring to fundraising by and on behalf of the entire district. Campus by campus efforts are small potatoes and will not make a difference.
Mary Selby
01:36:59
Is there a way to take this past state legislature and go direct for Federal funds or somehow appeal to a Federal level about this misuse (my words, not speaking for anyone else).
Valerie Turullols
01:37:00
Agree Emily. A lot of people here are just learning about this problem. That means the district/community is failing to educate the public on the impact of this policy and the need for change.
Leah Kelly
01:37:21
I hope we can look at MANY different ideas and not limit thinking to only one possible solution.
Mary Selby
01:37:59
I agree Leah! Do we have sister PTAs, CAC, etc we can reach out to?
Mary Selby
01:38:39
As we wrap up I want to say thank you to everyone who showed up today to explain things to us. You are in a tough spot, and I recognize that.
Emily Sawyer
01:38:46
Concentration of need creates different issues, as well.
Community Engagement
01:38:47
I know we weren't able to get to everyone's questions tonight. If we didn't get to yours, please feel free to contact me, Gabriella Beker at gabriella.beker@austinisd.org. We will also check this chat after the meeting and use it to update our FAQs at austinisd.org/budget
Erika Bodoin
01:38:58
What about schools that got cut from the 2017 bond changes that were promised? Is the money completely gone and if you didn’t get what was promised, too bad? Where is AISD’s accountability with that?
Angela Dunn
01:39:12
@Mary the ACPTA and TEXASPTA are where you should go. We need more people to address this issue. www.acpta.org
Mary Selby
01:39:24
Thank you!
Angela Dunn
01:39:27
Austin Council of PTAs.
Angela Dunn
01:39:37
Thank you
Ali Ghilarducci
01:39:57
Link to tonight’s presentation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a4gaKTqiqifym5oG2BUYtyeyhk5luiAP/view?usp=sharing
Charles Mead
01:40:17
Mary, I believe state law prevents federal funding from being directly disbursed to local school districts. As I understand it, the state instead receives those funds and distributes them to schools (or not - see https://www.raiseyourhandtexas.org/policy/stimulus-funding).
Emily Sawyer
01:40:26
What kinds of funds come from the federal level ( I know a bit about title1, but what else is there?
Angela Dunn
01:40:29
Austin High CAC ASSEMBLE. Parent feedback appreciated.
Community Engagement
01:40:34
Feedback form: https://austinisd.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_4O4aJABjFlEQkIu
Ali Ghilarducci
01:40:55
@erika, we are working on preparing a report out of where 2017 bond funds that didn’t make it to schools we closed have been reallocated. We’ll be sure to publish that information widely when it’s available
Lisa H
01:41:10
Thanks, everybody!
Leah Kelly
01:41:17
Thank you/
Diane Wells
01:41:25
Thank you all for your presence here this evening!
Nadia Khan
01:41:32
I look forward to more open opportunities like this.(CACs are closed membership.)